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Palestinian support for WB joining Jordan/ Gaza to Egypt
Comments wanting more information about the possibility of a Jordanian-West Bank/ Egypt-Gaza merger sent me searching through the archives of the Good Neighbors Blog to unearth the opinion on the issue and the rationales behind it from Palestinian participants. Below is a re-post copied off GNblog from June 11, 2007 that pretty much sums it all up quite well:
I am a supporter of a future Palestinian-Jordanian confederation, I will tell you why :
I don’t believe that a Divorce took place between the two nations, what took place was a Separation and not due to a conflict but due to a changement in the geopolitical map. If palestinians wanted the Jordanian forces to leave the westbank in the early 70’s , it’s due to the defeat of the 1967 War… don’t forget black september that came a few years later! Anyways, why do i defend the confederation ?
It’s not a secret that Both Jordan and Palestine share a lot demographically, economically, socially and politically. It’s also not a secret that Jordan never totally cut it ties with the Palestinian people due to very clear interdependencies, Mostly economic! Now come to think of it, when King Hussein decided to give up on the westbank, it was a political decision in order to allow the PLO to finally have an authority and a kind of independence, but the idea was always that After the creation of the palestinian State, a jordanian-Palestinian union was inevitable! ( Check out the 7th chapter of the Jordanian Charter).
Geographically and Politically :
Both the West Bank and Gaza are very important : Gaza has Land borders with Egypt and has natural Gas as well as an opening on the Mediterranean sea ( i wouldn’t give this up) .
The Westbank is a different story : It has all the Water that Jordan lacks, it’s relatively greener than Jordan, touristically, it’s very important, Religiously, it holds a lot of meanings etc….
The most important part : Hundreds of thousands( if not more) in the westbank hold Also Jordanian Nationalities ( more commonly called the Yellow Cards). Strategically, if this union is created, the current jordanian regime will control both sides of the Jordan river ( very important) as well as a major part of the Dead Sea ( Tourism, Potassium, Salt….) and will have wider frontiers with israel etc…Jordan and Israel already have a peace treaty, if a confederation is created, this peace treaty will surely become stronger and will give moderates a much bigger mandate to rule over this part of the world, The Hashemites will surely not be nice to Hamas and will be very close to Fatah , they both share a very important thing : Both accept israel’s presence and both have signed a Peace treaty with it, both are secular and both have the same enemies…
And now, lets face it, a Palestinian State is never going to be viable on the long run unless one of the countries around it “Adopt it”! Israel will never do so and we really don’t want it to, Egypt has no reasons to do it … The only side that has a huge interest in this ( and this interest is shared) is Jordan! I know both countries very well , most of the palestinians i talked to were not against the idea, they had some fears ( will the Army control us again ? …) but at the end, when i explained what a confederation meant, they Agreed warmly! …as for the Jordanians, they were much more welcoming from the very Highly educated to the Taxi driver, there was a huge ” YES” with a smile on their faces! I even talked to a Bedouin in Wadi Rum, he was like ” Yes, if we both respect each other , Yes, we are Brothers after all” ….
Now , What do i think personally :
I have no problem with being ruled by King Abdallah ! Why is that ? well, i find him Legitimate , his wife is Palestinian, so are his children, and in the future, the next king will most probably be Half Jordanian and Half Palestinian. King Abdallah , with his young age and his ” very little experience in the field ” managed to rule and to lead Jordan towards an international success story! So I really don’t have any problem with having him as a leader!
Economically : it will be a shared interest : who are amongst the Richest jordanians ? I will give you an answer : the Shomans ( Arab Bank) , The Masris ( Paltel, Palmedia, Paltrade, Movenpick)… ( and some others ..) Both happen to be also Palestinians and the Arab Bank never gave up his Palestinian Identity as for Al Masri , Munib al Masri who is a prominent palestinian political figure , was also a Jordanian Deputy before 1988. Take a drive in Amman and try to see who owns the biggest stores and hotels… most of them are palestinians!…Take a Taxi and open the subject with him, he will also happen to be a Palestinian! Now i will give you a few names of places and companies owned partially or fully by palestinians : Pharmacy One ( biggest pharmacy chain in Jordan , Like SuperPharm in israel) , Cozmo , Movenpick Aqaba and Dead Sea, Arab Bank, Intercontinental Hotel, Salad House, Whispers, Popeyes….
Millions of palestinians are Land Owners in Jordan too, eventhough a new Law prohibits palestinians from owning lands in the kingdom, most palestinians have lands somewhere in Jordan , around Amman most of the time…And now, i personally believe that together we can achieve much more than each one alone on his side! the Westbank is nothing ( sizewise) compared to Jordan and most of it’s residents will easily be loyal to the regime as for the others, they will have no other choice than to adhere! while i might not be for a total union where Jordan controls us, i am for a confederation where everyone will have his Parliement and where everyone will have a certain extent of self rule, while we all share one currency, one economy, one Land, eventually One king, one language, one dialect, One army and why not, one bi national dream…. It seems to me that such a union is nothing but a step that will come ” when the time is right” and that whether we are with it or we oppose it , it will happen , because the Old ” one Nation one land ” idea is slowly disappearing on a worldwide scale…
See also this post where extracts from the Jordanian response to the Palestinian-led initiative are given:
70 prominent Palestinian professors, business leaders, and members of the legislative councils were invited last month to attend a meeting at the port of Aqaba, Jordan. The meeting was initiated by Ex-prime minister Dr. Majali; the main man behind the Israeli-Jordanian peace treaty, to discuss the dead peace process in the region and the future political relationship between the upcoming Palestinian state and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The timing of this invitation was very interesting since it was almost 40 years ago that the West Bank and East Jerusalem, fell out of Jordanian hands into Israeli control in the course of the Six-Day War. Surprisingly the idea of a potential confederation between the West Bank and Jordan surfaced again when many members of the Palestinian delegation raised it with the King.
Check it out, very interesting.
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about 4 years ago
I recognize the author of this piece, and I must say that I believe him to be a clear thinking, brilliant young man, with vision and high moral standards.
about 4 years ago
fuck you…dog!
about 4 years ago
jin – ahh with your advanced and broad vocabulary, clearly we will soon be enjoying in a scintillating intellectual discussion.
about 4 years ago
Hm, this is interesting. It also is interesting that it speaks only about the WB-Jordan issue. Therefore let me take the Gaza-Egypt issue first. If I were Egyptian, I would run from that like the devil runs from consecrated water, as they say in Europe. The very fragile stability in Egypt would not fare well with the influx of 1.5 million radical Palestinians who would command political power, social and economic services and – and this is the weakest point of all these theories – continued enmity to Israel. Yes, this last point really is important: it is wrong to believe that the people living in Gaza would suddenly, overnight, become happy Egyptian citizens and completely forget about the last 20 years.
I have witnessed a merger of two very different countries in the past: I was in Germany when communist East Germany was absorbed into democratic West Germany. There also many people believed the East Germans would calmly remain in their dilapidated cities and wait for things to slowly change for the better. The opposite happened: “If the mark doesn’t come to us, we will come to it” the East Germans chanted when the currency union wasn’t implemented fast enough. And they came: While West Germans shoveled unprecedented amounts of money into the East, the Easterners, especially the young and educated, moved in droves to the West. And they also swarmed the political processes with their people, leading to the fact that today’s head of government is from East Germany, and the former East German communists are now a decisive party in all of the country.
Coming back to Egypt, what does it mean? Egypt would face the same kind of “we will be coming to you” attitude from the Gazans. And who would want Hamas people suddenly showing up in Cairo’s government? Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are relatives, one should not forget. And how soon would Gaza be empty when the borders are opened? How many of the younger Palestinians would want to remain in that miserable place? They would rather go to Cairo, acerbating its social problems.
While Israel might actually feel a lessening of the pressure in the beginning, the price for it will be a much more instable Egypt.
No, I don’t think Egypt should ever want to open that Pandora’s box. And, for the same reasons, I think Jordan won’t either.
about 4 years ago
Sir John….With all the respect I have for you good and balanced veiws here on this blog, I will have to say that the biased part on the german unification and the head of state has left me….somewhat disappointed.
This is the first thing that I have seen from your hand, that leaves me with no other alternative than to say that you`re smack wrong on that one.
I have spend the last ten years in Germany…..on the buttom of the german society. To tell people on this blog that Die Linkspartei has the say in Germany, is the same as to say that the arab party in Knesset has the say over IDF. It`s simply not true.
I am however, willing to debate this with you in a civillized manner, as I have come to know you as a normally very balanced person with understandle views.
With regards
Jens
about 4 years ago
I am sorry, but then you misunderstood what I said. I don’t want to go into details here, because it would distract from the topic of this blog, but I said not that the Linkspartei has the say, but that it has reached a position where it can be decisive. From being the pariah only a few years ago, the Linkspartei is on the verge of being a necessary coalition partner for the SPD and the Greens. Look at the trouble in Hesse state. Berlin, the capital, is being ruled by a coalition in which the Linkspartei is. The former communists have arrived again at a point where they have power. Even though the SPD is still denying it, the bets are in that the Linkspartei might even be a partner in the next federal government.
Anyway, I only used this example to show that political forces, which today might be considered outsiders, often do have the power to become influential, and that Egypt would have to reckon with the influence of the Hamasniks if they made the Gaza people citizens. I hope you can agree with me on that.
BTW, Jens, where are you from?
about 4 years ago
Sir John…Once again you`re right. I come from Denmark.
about 4 years ago
Ah Denmark! Hvordan har du det, Jens?
I love Denmark, when I used to live in Europe we spent many a vacation there, a neat little country with a very laid back people, a very funny language and the pinkest sausages I have ever seen (isn’t that a neat stereotype?). I have followed the discussion about the caricatures a while ago in the Jyllands Posten, as far as my limited Danish allowed, it was very interesting to gain an insight into the thinking of the people in that small European country.
Well, jeg skal skynde mig af sted nu. Hej med dig!
about 4 years ago
John –thud, you speak Danish too?
about 4 years ago
A little. I usually try to study as much of a language as I can before I go to a country for vacation, at least enough to be able to read the newspapers.
The bad thing is, I don’t have the time to practice them any more. That’s how my Hebrew has become so rusty. If there ever will be a retirement, I will have to start catching up.
about 4 years ago
Sir John……That`s the perpect way into the mindset of a nation. I tried to do a little hebrew study on my own, but I simply don`t get it……Yet.
I think I will have to do an ulpan class before I do my first tour of duty with Sar El.
about 4 years ago
Jens –heh no worries, I’ve been living here for 3 years and I still don’t “get” hebrew
I can speak it but I sure don’t get it.